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January 7, 2007 10:21 AM PST

LG debuts a combination Blu-ray and HD DVD player

(Credit: LG)

At a press conference today at CES 2007, LG introduced the first player capable of playing both Blu-ray and HD DVD discs. The words on the drawer of the player read "Super Multi Blue Player," but the model number is simply BH100. The player will be available as early as the first week of February at Best Buy and Circuit City among other outlets, according to the company, and will cost $1,199. At least for now, this announcement appears to be the most significant news at the show.

In case there was any doubt of the unit's capability, the company's press event included a demo of one player showing a custom demo loop labeled with a Blu-ray watermark and a second player showing the same loop with an HD DVD watermark. The company's reps even bravely performed a live demo of playing first an HD DVD disc and then a Blu-ray disc, skipping chapters, and so on. At one point in the conference, the LG representative changed discs, which took about a minute, although the spokesperson claimed a short, 25-second load time.

The player can deliver up to 1080p output resolution at 24 and 30 frames per second via HDMI, but future-conscious buyers might lament that the HDMI version is just 1.2, not 1.3. The LG also has Blu-ray Java compatibility. All of the standard A/V outputs are present, including 5.1-channel analog audio outputs. The spec sheet also mentions all of the requisite audio formats, including the lossless Dolby Digital True HD and DTS-HD formats, implying that the player decodes those formats internally and can send them out via HDMI in PCM format and via the analog 5.1-channel outputs. The unit can also play DVDs but not CDs. The back panel of the demo unit we saw did have an Ethernet port labeled "LAN," which I assume allows at least firmware updates and possibly some interactive features. Update: LG has confirmed that the BH100 also lacks the ability to access the HDi interactive layer found on some HD DVD discs, meaning that their advanced interactive features, like picture-in-picture commentaries and bookmark sharing, won't be available. LG also said that it could not add HDi via a firmware upgrade.

I was skeptical at first of the company's ability to deliver a player, but this demo and the early release date appear perfectly legit. The release of LG's player opens the door to other companies marketing a combination player (Samsung?), finally bringing some sense of security to buyers interested in investing in next-generation DVD discs. Of course the price of the BH100 is out of reach for most buyers, but if the falling prices of DVD players are any indication, their successor players might become somewhat affordable in a couple years. Of course, we're looking forward to reviewing a BH100 as soon as possible.

The company also introduced a $1,199 computer drive, model GGW-H10N and available around the same time, capable of playing HD DVDs and playing and recording Blu-ray discs at up to 4x speed. It can also read and write DVDs and CDs.

TalkBack
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combo DVD's

question will a combo DVD play in a standard DVD player
by kc7pbb (See profile) - March 15, 2008 3:13 PM PDT

LG BH100 1080P

The reason most sets don't work in 1080P is because this player displays the movie at a 30FPS which is film grade. A PS3 dispays movies at 60FPS which is for video games. Samsung and Sony cant display the film grade frame rate. Buy the LG BH200, the set isnt sexy looking but does display the framerate at 60FPS which is compatible with the cheaper 1080P sets.
by lgallison (See profile) - October 8, 2007 12:59 AM PDT

No 1080P here

I just recently purchased a LG BH100 to go with my brand new Sharp LC52d92u aquos 1080P TV. Well guess what? It will not accept 1080P from this player only 1080i. This was an expensive mistake on my part or was it my mistake? They are both advertised as 1080P but in my eyes if there is a TV or DVD player that is not compatable they should make you aware of which ones are not!!!!!!!!
by runningbob (See profile) - June 18, 2007 4:11 AM PDT

LG BH100 & 1080p

Just a note to those who care. I have the LG BH100 combo player & the LG 47" LCD TV and the 1080p resolution works and is superb. Although it does switch down to 1080i when a low def DVD is inserted.
by rfpingel (See profile) - May 18, 2007 1:42 AM PDT

LG BH100 & 1080p

Just a note to those who care. I have the LG BH100 combo player & the LG 47" LCD TV and the 1080p resolution works and is superb. Although it does switch down to 1080i when a low def DVD is inserted.
by rfpingel (See profile) - May 18, 2007 1:39 AM PDT

Piece of ****

I just got the LG Super Multi Blue.

Lets review what it CANNOT do

1. Other than play an HD DVD, you cannot access anything else, including the
menu and features. I knew that going in, but I already had an HD DVD player
so I thought I could live with that.

2. 1080P - According to their website, it supports 1080P on combatible TV's.
Now to the average person, you would think they meant that your TV had to
support 1080P in order to get it. WRONG. From my research online from
other owners who called LG, it only supports it on LG TV's. Thanks ********.

3. Not all Blu Ray Movies will work on this! Yes you heard me correct. LG Tech
Support confirmed this with me last night when I called the support line
because 2 different copies of Big Fish would not play. They said that movie
isnt on the list. I asked which list. They said the list of movies that are
uncompatible. They said its because how the movie was formatted. I said its a
BluRay movie, and this is a $1200 BluRay player, how can you tell me all
movies wont work? They also said Casino Royale was on that list, but I have
that one and it works fine.

Someone needs to start a class action lawsuit against these bastard. As it is,
mine is hitting ebay today and I will get a PS3.
by BaronVonFlapJack (See profile) - April 5, 2007 10:22 AM PDT

No 1080P on LG BH 100

Same problem. No 1080P. It is greyed out on the setup menu. It seems like the 1080P/24 capable tv might be the answer. But I'm not qualified. This is just a guess. I can say this: I simultaneously connected a Sony BDP-S1 and the LG BH 100 to my Samsung HL-S6187W (DLP) both via identicle gold plated HDMI cables. Then I ran the movie "Space Cowboys" in HDDVD on the LG and the same movie in BLUERAY on the Sony (simultaneously) and the LG lacked NOTHING in picture quality. In fact, flipping "The Fifth Element" and "Rocky Balboa" in blueray between the two players, the LG was definately a better picture.

I still would like to know why 1080P is greyed out on the LG even when you bring up the setup menu with no source disk in the player. LG tech support was useless: "take it back to Best Buy". It sounds like ALL of these LG units have the same problem. Can somebody confirm this please!? Bottom line: the LG has an ass kickin picture even in 1080i and I really don't feel the lack of HDDVDi that much. I just want to watch a nice looking movie.
by Dr.Lou (See profile) - March 31, 2007 6:57 AM PDT

No 1080p On LG Multi Blue player

You should be able to see the 1080p when you toggle through the possible resolutions on the LCD on the player itself I can never see that option and I can only get 1080i to play with both bluray and HD-DVD so It's a troublesome fraud. It does not play any 1080p or my unit is broken either way I'm very unhappy. Anybody have this problem and resolve it. I feel like returning it.
by dfinsmith (See profile) - February 20, 2007 8:35 PM PST
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Don't jump the gun..

It's time someone made a hybrid player, but it's only HDMI 1.2, so save your money and wait until this war is over and more solid products are released with HDMI 1.3. Both disk formats are different but, from a consumer standpoint, produce the same HD picture. Early adopting would be a stupid move at this point since it's hard to say who will definately win.
by slemaire195 (See profile) - February 10, 2007 10:46 AM PST

Cannot Get 1080P

I purchased an LG BH100 online from Circuit City and it was
delivered last Saturday 1/27. I have it hooked up to a
Panasonic TH-PX600U with HDMI. No other cables.
The unit did not come with an HDMI cable. I had to run out
to radio shack and get the cable. I cannot change the output on the BH100 to 1080P when using a Blu Ray Disc. When I go into menu, picture, the resolution choice for both 480i and
1080P are greyed out. I called LG technical support and we
tried everything and could not get it to output 1080P, so LG
is sending me a box to return it for either getting fixed
or swapping out. I also called Panasonic technical support
and they said that the TH-PX600U was always ready to receive
1080P through the HDMI port. That no adjustment was necessary to the TV.

Also, I have read post at AVSForum that the BH100 through
HDMI does not pass 5.1 audio to a receiver. If HDMI is hooked up to the receiver only video goes through and the
optical audio output from the BH100 must be hooked up to
get 5.1 stereo. There is no optical cable as well. My
BH100 is passing through 2 channel audio through the HDMI
cable just fine. I have not tried 5.1.

Even though I am not getting 1080P, the blu ray disc video picture at 1080i is very good. Much better than a regular
disc at 1080P. I also played regular DVDs at 480P and the
upconverted picture is better than regular 480P. I compared the 480P picture to a 10 year old RCA DVD player hooked up
to the same TV set.

These are the observations of an early adopter.
by houndpr (See profile) - February 2, 2007 11:04 AM PST
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